S10|13 - The Energy of Abundance with Maren Rasmussen

Money has energy- and increasing our capacity to receive in one area of our life, increases all others too. If you want more wealth, more love, more connection, more fun… tapping into the energy of what you want is key. Tune into this conversation with me, and my own energy worker, Maren Rasmussen as we discuss all things energy. 

Maren is the owner of Living Awake with Maren. She is a certified life coach through The Life Coach School and has been doing energy work for 15 years and loves the beautiful gift she has to see energy and help her clients shift and change. Maren has witnessed the powerful combination of life coaching and energy work.

In today’s episode: 

• What energy work is, and how Maren can see more than meets the eye
• How Maren cultivated her gift, and how it helps her clients 
• What the energy of money and abundance looks like, and what we can do to receive more

Connect with Maren: 
[email protected] (email) 
IG: @livingawakewithmaren

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Intuitive Journaling Prompts HERE and a somatic meditation (Move through frustration in 15 minutes or less) HERE, The Art of Non-Attachment Workshop HERE

Get started on this work with daily practice in a journal, Burn This Book (a great intro to mental and emotional wellness) HERE

Work with Crystal 1:1: www.coachcrystal.ca/miracle or in group: www.coachcrystal.ca/creationroom

Grab your copy of Crystal’s feelings wheel here: www.coachcrystal.ca/wheel

Find your parenting personality (and get tips specific to it) by taking the quiz HERE

 

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Crystal: [00:00:00] Welcome to the Parenting Coach Podcast with Crystal. Over seven years ago, I felt like I was stuck in this cycle of yelling and reactivity in my parenting that I did not want to be in, but I didn't know how to get out of, I knew how I wanted to parent pretty much exactly, and I'd spent hours reading books, but not finding a way to show up how I wanted to.

That's when I started to turn inwards. My own inward journey was what my family needed. As I changed everything around me, changed my kids' meltdowns, decreased by 90% or more with no medications or therapy. I stopped yelling. Sibling fighting became almost entirely nonexistent, and I found that this change flowed into other areas of my life too.

My intuition increased. I started to run my life in business in a very different way. If this sounds like something you want, Sue, I can help. Join me each week as I share my journey, including the laughter, fun, hard times, and tears. Tune in for support, guidance, and fun conversations. With my favorite experts and really anything else that interests me too.

Introduction to the Episode

Hello everybody. Welcome to today's podcast episode. [00:01:00] Um, if you have not yet listened to our episode from last week, make sure you go listen to it. It was a fascinating conversation, all about critical thinking. Um, and today we're, I'm bringing you another guest to the podcast. This is gonna be a really special and interesting episode.

Um, I have known Maren for a few years and she is a life coach, but she also does energy work. And if you're thinking, what does that mean? We're gonna talk all about that, and we're gonna specifically dive in today with the energy of money, and maybe we'll talk about the energy of a few other things as we're doing that too.

But Maren, do you wanna first just introduce yourself to us and tell us what you do?

Maren's Journey into Energy Work

Maren: Yes. Hi, I'm Maren Rasmussen and I am from Utah. I have two little kids that are two and three years old, and then I also have step kids that are 18 and 21, so quite a big, big gap there. Um, and I, yeah, I got into energy work, oh man, long time ago, like 15 years ago or more, and [00:02:00] I had some autoimmune issues.

Fibromyalgia, specifically, I. That just opened me up to the door of energy work. And I've always told people, you know what? When you kind of reach your limit of what more can I do? How else can I fix this? It kind of pushes you beyond and being willing to open up to new things. So I'm so grateful for that, for those reasons.

Um, but yeah. What is it?

Crystal: Can you tell us what energy work is like when I think of that? 'cause I know like your, um, your past story was kind of like you got into like, is it N-A-N-A-E-T? Yep. So I did some of that too. Like it's like allergy elimination type stuff, right? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and so, and like muscle testing, so if anybody's like, heard of those kinds of things, like that kind of work, how did you, um, because the energy work you do, I feel like is very different from that.

Mm-hmm. So tell us how you noticed that. Like, what was that? Experience, like the evolution of that? 

Understanding Energy Healing and Muscle Testing

Maren:Yeah. Mm-hmm. So yeah, I started with the NAAT and she basically just did muscle testing and would ask questions, muscle test questions, muscle [00:03:00] test, and clear things that way. Um, it fascinated me and it helped me with my fibromyalgia.

And so then I was open to, oh, I like started hearing about more people, like three or four other women. That also helped me in my progress of like understanding my gift. At that time, I just thought it was super interesting. I was like, this is really cool that this helped. Like I had an experience at this age that we released now and now my symptoms are gone.

I'm not sick anymore. I was so sick and now I'm not. So it definitely opened my eyes up to what more, what is this?

Crystal: I know she also will say like. I think that significant of a physical experience makes you like more of a believer 'cause you're like, there has to be something to this. Yeah, and my mom used to take me to people like this all the time in my youth because I was also very ill as a teenager.

1. As a young child, and then again, like mid years and then like as a teenager. And so she started taking me to alternative people because the doctors were, it got to the end where they were like, we don't know. We don't know why she's [00:04:00] sick. We can't do anything about it. She's like, losing weight. She's sick all the time, but I don't know what it is.

And um, they'd kind of like run all the tests on their end. So then she started taking me people and I would always like dub them her witch doctor. So I'd be like, oh, mom's taking me to another witch doctor, but this one man who did that. But he did a few other things also. He was like a chiropractor and anyways, he combined all these modalities, I don't even know what he did, but like within like six months, like I was like, it was, I was an entirely different person.

And so it's hard to like look back on that and be like, there's nothing to it, you know? I have no idea how that worked, but I do know that it worked.

Maren: Yeah. And that's for me, I could barely get out of bed. I was struggling going to work. Every time I exercised, I felt way worse. Like I. It was very apparent I was sick.

And then within four sessions with this woman, I was better. I was able to go to work, I was able to exercise all the things. So yes, such a dramatic shift. Um, from there I met a few others that [00:05:00] didn't do NAET specifically, they. They just said they did energy work, one focused on chakras. Um, another focused more on generational, um, patterns.

Generational Patterns and Energy Blocks

So connecting with your ancestors. Mm-hmm. And finding patterns and beliefs that are within the bloodline that have been passed down to you. And that with her is where I found she, she would start speaking about like, okay, I'm noticing this, or I'm seeing this person. And I was seeing it before she said it, so I was like, whoa, I'm seeing exactly what she's speaking.

And so like visually,

Crystal: like you're actually seeing the things Yeah.

Maren: And, and in my mind's eye, right? Like I wasn't seeing like physically, but like almost like I was daydreaming or imagining.

Crystal: Mm.

Maren: The what she, what she was kind of trying to dig into. And then. That. From there I was like, okay, I've got a gift in this somehow, some way.

And so I read the book, the Emotion Code. Mm-hmm. Um, it teaches you how to [00:06:00] muscle test. I was very interested in muscle testing and so I, I was like, I just wanna learn how to do that. I didn't even read the whole book. I figured out how to muscle test, and then there's like a chart in there that you can, like muscle test to see which emotions you need to release.

So I started working on. Friends and family that were open to me just playing around with this while I was figuring it out. And, um, I, I have a sister-in-law that was into energy work and she could kind of feel the energy, she would move with it. But besides that, beyond that, she didn't see much more. But when I, her and I would work together on like her dad that has Parkinson's and a few other in the family that wanted it, and I started seeing things.

And I remember specifically hearing like you need to speak what you're seeing. So, okay, I'm seeing a guy or a man that has a plaid shirt on and khaki jeans. And then as I started talking, the image opened up more and [00:07:00] more and more to me.

Crystal: Hmm.

Maren: So, um, and that's exactly how it is even now. Um, at that point I was still very like, what does this mean?

How do we move this energy? Um, what's the point of seeing it this way? So I had a few mentors, specifically the women that had worked on me before that I would reach out to and ask questions. Um, and so I've learned. Kind of some rules and guidelines that I use when I work on people. Um, but beyond that, I remember one time specifically, I would always feel like someone on the left side of the person I was working on, and my mentor said, you need to ask them like, who are they?

What are, what are they doing here? And so from there I found, oh, I always see people's. Dad and his generational line over their left shoulder, and I see the mom and that generational line over the right shoulder. So that helped me like define who I was talking to more specifically. Um, but [00:08:00] yeah, I, from there I just started working on people and then, um, I felt like something was kind of missing and that's when I found Jody Moore who does mindset thought work.

I was like, okay, this is the missing piece of bringing together energy. And also like, um, the mindset work of understanding how your thoughts create your feelings. And that's, that's kind of the model I use now when I work on people. So you went to, did you go to the Life Coach school after that then once you found I did.

Yeah. So I went to Jody Moore's be Bold Masters and another, I did a couple of her events. And then I went to the Life Coach school in 2020, right when Covid. Was hitting. And um, and then from there, I, I was working a full-time corporate job this full time. And I had two kids during those years. And then, uh, the corporate job.

Fizzled out this last year, and I quit in April. It's been almost a year now, and I've just been focusing now on my [00:09:00] kids and then also doing energy work slash life coaching.

Crystal: So, so tell me about, um, what did you feel like the missing piece was? 'cause that's interesting to me 'cause I, I went the opposite way.

I found life coaching first. Um, and I felt like it was very much missing in the feelings, in the emotions in somatic work. It was missing shame. It was missing our own self identity and making those like bigger changes. And even though I felt like it was useful to me, like I, I, I call it like my gateway drug because I didn't understand like that I even had thoughts.

And I just like believed all the thoughts I had and just like thought, I don't know, thought I was the center of the universe, I guess, like we probably do in our minds. So I feel like it really opened me up to this whole new world for sure. But I felt like it was missing a lot. So what did you feel like it, you got from it that helped you with the energy work piece?

Personal Experiences with Energy Work

Maren: Yeah, it's funny you explained that. I'm like, oh, I just did the opposite. Like I learned energy work and was like really engulfed in that and I love this and it's so awesome. It's moving things, it's [00:10:00] shifting. But I just felt like, I kind of felt like a lack of, um, personal accountability. Um, I didn't understand even at that time that my thoughts created my feelings.

Hmm. So doing energy work and being very empathic. You know, my husband would come home, maybe he's in a bad mood and I'm just blaming him for all of it and not finding the creator that's within, right. Like my own creations. And so yeah, bringing those two together and now it's definitely. I went very heavy on like the mindset work for a while.

Mm-hmm. Almost to the point where I was like, I'm not gonna do energy work, I'm just gonna do my, but now they, they totally work together. It's right. It, it's all, it's embodying everything and helping to see what's going on in the system. Um, and you have to have, you have to be able to look at the thoughts, but also understand the feeling and the energy of it, and how they kind of work together or work against each other.

All of that. Um, so interesting recently, one thing that [00:11:00] I've recently found is, and I don't know the science behind this, I heard, heard this from my coach somehow. So I'm sorry, but I'm not exactly sure how to say this, but we have like neural pathways. Mm-hmm. And there's something about our heart and our stomach, which you might know this more than I, but our heart and stomach also have like a thinking center.

Crystal: Mm-hmm.

Maren: And as I started looking at certain, specifically with me, I've had sinus infections and sinus issues. And the thing that opened up to me was you need to stop thinking so much. You need to let that energy move to your heart and stomach. And that is where it's going to process. You're, you're like, it's almost like my throat was like keeping it stuck up in my head.

Mm-hmm. And I need to shift it to allow my, like, to feel it. Stop overthinking, stop thinking about it so much. Feel it in my heart. Experience it. Let it talk to me, let it process, let it leave. Like

Crystal: that's so interesting. 'cause I see you as only energy person. So I'm like, that's interesting that you're like, but then [00:12:00] I'm stuck up in my thoughts.

Um, I wonder when I think about masculine and feminine energy, which if you listen to this podcast, you've probably heard me talk about quite a few times before. But it's, it's energy that's within us. It's yin and yang. We have both of them all of the time. And masculine energy is, is more concrete, it's more logical, it's more structured.

And feminine energy is more fluid and it's more, um, it's more movement and it's more receiving versus producing. And the goal is to kind of integrate both of these yin and yang energies. And I think maybe that's what we're talking about here is that like. The, I, when I first found the life coach school very, um, very yang energy, like all yang.

And it was like, here is like, we're just gonna do this over and over and over and over and over again. Be exactly the same way until you get it. And, um, at that time, my whole life was Yang energy, so I was like, oh, I can do this like a plus. Like, I, I can figure this out. But, um, had not really incorporated any of that yin, and I think it's that combination of like, okay, what's, you know, what's happening in the mind, but also like, let's go down into the body, like what's happening with our energy, with our [00:13:00] feelings, with our heart, with our stomach.

One of my favorite meditations to do is a guided meditation where you imagine your mind. Do you imagine your heart and you imagine your, your gut and you do these all separately, but as you're imagining it, you just ask it like, what message do you have for me? Like, what, what do you have to share? And I think that so often we, we are easy, more easy to tap into our mind, but not as easy to tap into our gut.

To tap into our, into our heart. Yeah.

Maren: And especially in the world we live in, I. I've definitely discovered over the past this year specifically, um, to separate, like I live around all these people and, and my husband and the things that I'm kind of engulfed in and where I'm wanting to go is just so different than from that.

And it really is a balance of the feminine and masculine energy. And I see energetically when one overpowers the other. It totally [00:14:00] overtakes that chakra or that area of the body.

Crystal: Mm-hmm.

Maren: And it doesn't allow you to like it. It's almost like saying like, this is, this part of me is bad. Like the feminine is like this isn't okay to listen to, so I'm just gonna really step into the masculine here 'cause that's what I need.

And really it's the balance of both of them, or in those moments, maybe if you're too masculine, allowing more of the feminine in to like support and seeing the strength in that.

Crystal: Mm-hmm.

Maren: That allows that inner balance to help you to connect with yourself and what, what you're striving to create.

Crystal: When you walk around, do you just see energy around people all the time?

No. People

Maren: ask me that all the time. Um, it takes, it takes effort to tap into energy and I have a specific role that I don't tap into anyone without their permission. Mm-hmm. So, um, so I don't, there, there have been a few moments where maybe we've been in like a odd situation or something feels a little off, and I might tap into.

Who we're speaking with or the situation that we're in.

Crystal: Mm-hmm.

Maren: Um, [00:15:00] but other than that, no. And in fact, like I don't even do a lot of work on my kids and my husband 'cause they're even like harder for me to tap into, I think because of the connection there. So,

Crystal: oh, totally. My, my two littlest kids have been asking me for hypnotherapy lately.

Actually three of my, no, all four of them. So all four of them have been like, okay, let's do this. Anyways, the younger two have always been really resistant to it, but recently there's been little things that they're like, can you do hypnotherapy on this? And anyway, so my one son wanted it for stage fright.

Another son's trying to figure out what to do about life and college and whatever. And I like, have always been so resistant to it. Like, I messaged a friend of mine who's a hypnotherapist, I'm like, can you meet with them? Like, I do feel like there is, like, there is a difference there. Like it's, it seems, I don't know if it's the separation or something like that.

I see, see things, it's harder for me to, to process things with them. Yeah. Than it is for people that I don't know. Um, when you are, when you are doing this work with people, so you kind of get in a conversation with them or whatever, and you start seeing this like energy, how does the life coaching [00:16:00] aspect of it help you there?

Like knowing that thoughts create our feelings and feelings, feel our actions, and like helping people see that. How do, how do you integrate that?

Maren: Yeah, so sometimes I will just see a symbol. Like a square or a circle or a color, and all I need to do is like notice it and release it. Other times, thoughts start coming in.

So it kind of shows to me, oh, there's a belief here around, around money or around help or around masculine. I just worked on a man recently and there's, he had resistance to masculine energy and so. Um, as I tapped into that more, it kind of opens up to me if it's generational or not, and then specific words come together or an idea like, oh, this is the belief that we specifically, we need to release.

And then I also mention to them if it feels important enough, I'll mention to them, this is probably a belief that you might want to work on consciously, like [00:17:00] throughout the, the coming weeks as you're shifting things. Because if you're seeing it show up, it's, it's going to just attract energy to kind of get stuck again.

So, yeah, it totally depends on where it is in the body and, and that's what I love is like, I feel like the energy helps me see is this something that we really need to do thought work on and, and focus on that? Or do we just need to release the belief or is it just energy that we're just releasing? We don't need to see words with it.

We just need to see you and allow it to process and release from their system.

Energy and the Mindset of Abundance

Crystal: Okay, so. Let's talk about abundance. Yeah. Um, when you see abundance of like, love or abundance of like, I don't know, experiences, like an abundance can be really in anything. Um, do you see money differently than that or does you feel like positive energy kind of flows in, in the same way?

Like how does, what does that look like energetically?

Maren: Yeah. When I first and foremost, it's light. So, um, if you just imagine like a really warm, bright light, like the sunshine or. [00:18:00] Uh, you know, I believe in God. So I think of that light that I imagine with him. Um, that light is always there. There's movement.

It's never just like stuck or solid. There's, there's movement in the energy. It's like, it's not too fast or slow, it just is. Um, sometimes from there, a lot of people have, uh. Money issues or ideas they want to shift. And so sometimes I am like told like, Hey, I wanna work on my money. So I specifically tap into that.

But I do believe money is just part of the abundance, right? Like abundance is just, there's enough. And so money is just one aspect of that that will then affect other aspects too. So when we work on money, I believe it is working on the energy of abundance, um, that will then affect, you know, time, energy, help, all of those things.

Mm-hmm. Um, but I love doing, I love doing money work so much because. The main thing I've [00:19:00] noticed is when we, um, connect with the energy of money and our beliefs about it, what do we think about it? What do we feel in our body when we're going to spend or receive? What, what shifts happen there? Mm-hmm. Do we resist, um, when we're willing to release those things?

It just like, it changes who we are. We like, the more I tap into money work, the more I realize it's not about money. Mm. It's about becoming. More connected to your, it's about becoming who you're meant to be or the, the creator in you connecting more with light and abundance. Um, there's so many limitations.

The world and cultures have put on money and characterizing it specifically, like making it evil or good, you know, like

Crystal: mm-hmm.

Maren: All those things. And then we,

Crystal: and then I think then we block it, right? Yes. And when I was doing manifestation work, what I noticed within myself and when I was journaling was that I could only manifest to the level of my self-worth.

Mm. But self-worth was [00:20:00] actually the thing that was blocking my manifestation because if I believed enough that I could receive something, but I didn't feel like I was worthy to receive that thing mm-hmm. Then I would constantly be blocking the thing from coming in. Yes.

Maren: Oh, totally.

Crystal: And I think that abundance, like, like you said, I love that you were like, it all just kind of looks the same.

'cause I think as we work on one area of our life. Like love, relationships, connection with people, that it also seeps out to money. Like everything is interconnected. You can't just work on one thing and not have the other things impacted. Yeah.

Maren: Yeah. And money, if you think about money, it really is just the essence of like creation, putting value into the world, and then also receiving, giving.

Mm-hmm. Like all of those aspects that. For some people, parts of those are super easy, but then they block the others because it's not okay. Like I, I can listen to people talking about money or little as little things, you know, like, oh, this is so expensive, and you can see instantly, [00:21:00] oh, they're blocking that creation and, and like the ability to connect with more.

Um, and I love too, I think that as we connect, like you said, like the self worth. We really shame, shame always hides whenever I look at that on the system. Mm-hmm. If something's hiding from me, I instantly know it's shame. And I'll tell people often, sorry. Like often, sorry, your energy's hiding from me. Or like the ancestral line, like the generational energy is hiding from me.

So the first thing we need to do is clear shame because mm-hmm.

Crystal: That's the

Maren: only reason that I'm seeing a need to hide. Right. Um, but as we connect more with. Who we are the creator within us. There's nothing to be shameful about. It's okay to create, it's okay to receive. It's okay to create more, like

Crystal: there's people, it's more than okay.

Like that is, that is what we're here for. Yeah. But it's not about the money. It's like when I tap into the energy of receiving more, that I am also [00:22:00] like a giving more. Mm-hmm. I'm also more connected to the people around me. Yeah. And that even if I didn't actually get more back. But I would still be like becoming.

Um, and I also think that the scarcity and abundance comes up around time. Like, um, Maren and I just finished reading the Big Leap a little while ago, having a little book club discussion with it in one of our coaching groups. And they talked about going on a time diet, like not complaining about time in a way that was scarce.

And I recognize how often I do this. Like, oh, I could do that, but I don't have the time. Or like, Nope, sorry, don't have enough time for that tonight or whatever. And I'm like, wow. Do I ever talk about time scarcity a lot in a way that I did not realize before? Yeah.

Maren: It's so, it's so interesting when you like have those little, like.

Ideas brought to you and you're like, oh my gosh. The awareness, like I think that's what energy work is, is and we're just bringing awareness to what's going on and that's when it can shift. That's when it can. Um, additionally like gifts and [00:23:00] talents, when we bring awareness to that, that's when it can be amplified and enhanced and created and stepped into more.

So, yeah. Yeah, that is what led me.

Crystal: That's totally what led me into intuitive coaching because I recognized like there would be things that I would say or feel or think while I was working with someone. And then as soon as I started following that, I was like, oh yeah, like that's, that's what we need to do.

And so somebody asked me like, well, can you teach me how to do like the meditations that you do with your clients? And I was like, I don't think it's something I can teach, because it's not something that I think of beforehand. Like, oh, I know I'm gonna say this to them. I just get in there. Like an image will come to mind and it'll be like, okay, we're gonna, we're gonna go this way with this, um, because that's what's needed.

So. I love this idea of like opening up to abundance and if somebody is not yet ready to do, like to hop on the energy work train yet, but they wanna kind of open up their own self energy to receive more abundance, whether it's in time or money or love, whatever it is for them, [00:24:00] self-worth, um, what can they do on their own energetically?

Maren: Yeah. One of my favorite practices is to. I talk about like the third eye in between your two eyes, um, is where we see things more spiritually. It's like everything's created spiritually before it's created physically.

Crystal: Mm-hmm.

Maren: And everyone has an imagination. In fact, I look at my two little kids and I'm like, holy cow.

I like had such a great imagination as a child. And then as, as I got older and older, I thought it was something that was hindering me. And so I stopped daydreaming. I stopped. Imagining things and now I'm like, oh my gosh. That's the key, like mm-hmm. That is it. So absolutely. That's what I saying for everyone is a, a few different things you can do is you could lay down and just kind of ask your body like where, you know, if you're focusing on something specific, say money, wanting to tap into that more or abundance, where is it in my body?

And just trust whatever comes to your mind is where to go. That [00:25:00] is a huge key in all of this is you have to trust yourself like. I even think before we can trust God, we have to trust ourselves because we won't even know we're hearing him or talking to him if we don't trust ourselves. Like there, it's cohesive there.

Um, so being able to trust yourself, connect with that part of your body, and you could, you can ask a few things I like to ask or like, if you want to, how old are you? Um, there might be a part of your system. Is this even mine? I like to ask that too. You can imagine that. But to, to really connect with abundance.

I like to go to creation, so that's where you can use your imagination. And if you had everything you wanted or if there's something specific that you're really excited about, it's going into that world and creating it in your mind, in your mind's eye, and imagining what it would feel like. Um, what does it look like?

Say you want a new car or a new home, or. Connecting with your spouse more, what does that feel and look like? And it really is the feeling that helps you [00:26:00] expand more into that light of abundance. The energy of abundance. Mm-hmm. Um, which then helps you attract and connect with that energy that already wants to support you.

It's already trying to get to you. Relaxing into it is, I would say, like the most important thing when you can relax into it and connect with that feeling. Um, you're there and then it's trusting and it's not, you don't have to be there all the time, but it's connecting with that consistently. Um, allowing yourself to go there really helps your system open up to it.

I feel like it's like if there's a doors closed, you're opening up that door to let it all in.

Crystal: Yeah. And manifestation I've found is like so much energy. Like it's all about the energy. I can think my way into like trying to believe something, but unless I'm actually in the energy of the thing that I wanna receive, I can't receive it.

Yeah. And um, I kind of have this philosophy, I share this with my clients, but I believe that there's like two rooms. And in the one room is like shame and fear and self-doubt and worry and sadness. And in the other room is like trust energy. And when we're [00:27:00] in trust energy, we're opening up to like infinite possibilities.

And when we're in the other room, we are the only. The only, um, solutions there are control and apathy. Like, I will make this work or like, I'm just gonna give up. And our goal is just to notice when we're in one room or the other and just to open the door between the two. Not to feel like bad that I'm in this room, like it's not supposed to be here.

I'm supposed to feel good all the time. Um, because we're not, we'd all just be like robots. If we felt good all the time, like we would have no learning, we'd have no growth. There would be no color or contrast to life. And so it's accepting the room that I'm in and like sitting with that and listening to that.

So that I can shift open that door to the other side. That's what I imagine this work is, is just shifting, opening up the door, um, and going back and forth. Um, I would love to talk for a minute about God. Um, as you were going through this and kind of understanding your energy work, how did your faith equate in there?

Were you like a little bit like, well, how does this align with like

Maren: what I believe? Oh, [00:28:00] yeah, totally. And. Like, when I first started learning about energy work, I was like, is this even okay? Mm-hmm. I remember really, um, kind of having a war within myself and finally I was just like, God, if this, I'm gonna go after this 'cause this feels good.

It feels right. If it's wrong, I'm gonna trust, you'll stop me. And so I, I actually, every so often, and my husband too, will kind of check in, how are you doing? And I feel like the only times that it feels wrong or off is if my ego kind of gets in the way.

Crystal: Mm-hmm. And

Maren: I know without a doubt, I can't tap into someone's energy without God's support.

I, I really feel like he would just turn that off. Like, you can't see this. But over the last few years, it's definitely evolved. Um, yeah, I, I see things differently. I would even say, I've had like a few faith crisis moments where I'm like, how do, [00:29:00] yeah. How does this all connect? How is this okay? It's opened up my mind and expanded to how I, I see things.

Whereas before I, I've been like very strict. Mm-hmm. Obedient, like. Easy for me, like super easy for me to just like follow those rules. I'm good with that. Mm-hmm. And this is opening me up more to Okay, I, I want to and need to connect it with God specifically and know, I know there's more out there that we all don't know and that's okay.

So I, I feel like I've gotten to a place where I'm just okay with maybe cognitive dissonance like. Two opposing ideas that I'm like, okay, they're just gonna live together right now while I am in this mortal journey, and I'm okay with that. Um, but overall I feel like opening up to God and trusting, like my connection with him has been like the most him and Christ like

Crystal: mm-hmm.

Maren: Has been, it's just expanded that. So

Crystal: I think that life is full of [00:30:00] paradox and I think that we try to avoid paradox because our brain likes certainty, but understanding that life is just full of them and that, um, my husband and I have conversations like, like this all of the time because we, I. Definitely differ on the character of God, like what we believe about that.

And I would say that my whole life now feels cognitively dissonant, not just with religion, but pretty much every belief in every field that you could have. I feel like I have this ability where I've kind of increased my capacity to hold two things at once and to see both, both sides at once, and to not feel like I have to just pick one or the other.

Mm-hmm. But to just be open to all knowing that I don't have the whole, the whole picture. And this totally goes well with our last week's episode. We were talking about critical thinking and it being the skill of being, it's not about getting it right, it's about increasing insight. And that's what I think coaching and growth is, is like we're able to just increase insight.

There doesn't have to be like, here's [00:31:00] one right way, one wrong way, but there's like, there's more.

Maren: Yeah. I love that. And I, I feel like as I've done this work more as I work on a client, I'm like, they have the answers, it's not me. Mm-hmm. I'm just helping, I'm trying to open them up to seeing that within them.

And similarly, like an organization doesn't have all the answers, like that is within me. And then I have these things that support me and. It just expands it. Mm-hmm. We're progressive creatures. We want more. We want that expansion, that understanding the enlightenment, and as we connect with that on an energetic level, I feel like that can really amplify quickly as we're, we're open to that because energy is everything.

Crystal: Mm-hmm. Perfect end. Let's end on that note. Energy is everything. I 100% agree. And, um, thank you for coming on. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us. If anyone wants to work with you, I [00:32:00] highly suggest Maren. Also, if you come into my one-on-one coaching container, you get sessions with Maren and that has been lovely addition.

Um, and she comes in my group programs also every once in a while. So, um, tell me how, or tell us how people can connect with you, how they can work with you, what that looks like.

Maren: I.

Crystal: Yeah,

Maren: so you can find me on Instagram at Living Awake with Maren, or you can email me at Maren [email protected] co. Either way, I will get back to you and respond.

I work with people on just one-on-one sessions. You know, someone wants a session once a year or something. We can do that. Through Zoom or email. Um, I also have packages where I have individuals that just wanna deep dive and we, we stick together for six months or more and work through things. And then, um, I also work with people through Voxer.

That's an app that you can text walkie-talkie, uh, that's a little less hands-on, but we can work through little things here and there as, as they come up. So. [00:33:00] A lot of options, but I love it. Mm-hmm. I love working with people. If you're ready to dive in deep, then I'm

Crystal: here for you. Yeah. And dive in deep to your own answers.

I think that's one thing that was really missing from the coaching field when I joined. It was like, here's how you do a sales call and convince somebody to sign up with you instead of like, they have their answers. They even have their answers about whether or not I am the guide that would be helpful for them right now.

Yeah. And that has completely changed it. I don't even really do sales calls, and if I do some sort of a consult call, it's like. Let's just get a taste of what my energy is like and what I do to work with people. And you will know if it's right for you. And that feels so different and so much more abundant.

Right. And so much more like everyone. Everyone has a path. Mm-hmm. And everyone has answers within them, and it's not me that gets to decide. Decide that, like you said, if our ego gets in the way, that's the only time it feels icky. I think that's for more than just energy work. Totally. So I, I love this way of, um, of ethical marketing, ethical business building, and, um, [00:34:00] thank you Maren.

Thanks for being in my world. I appreciate you. Thank you. Yeah, so fun. I, if you enjoyed this episode as much as I did, I would love for you to help spread the word by getting this message of support and guidance out to as many people as possible. So text it to your best friend or tag me on Instagram and share it.

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