S03|10 - Tough Conversations, a How-To Guide with Emily Christensen

 

Emily Christensen is a perfectly, imperfect wife and mother of three who believes in the power of family dinners and do-overs. Faith and family are her two greatest priorities. Emily was raised in an active Latter-day Saint home that was deeply impacted by pornography and is intimately aware of how pornography can affect individuals and families. Although professionally her background is in commercial real estate, personally her background is in supporting families (including her own) that have been impacted by pornography. For over 19 years she has been doing both.

Emily has presented to a variety of church groups, trained church leaders and presented at BYU Women’s Conference on topics related to pornography. In 2019 she became a Certified Life Coach through the Life Coach School. In her coaching practice she works with individuals and families impacted by pornography and teaches parents how to prevent the compulsive use of pornography in children. 

What we discuss in this episode:

• How to create a relationship where tough conversations are safe
• Healthy sexuality and how to teach it without being awkward
• How to prevent pornography use in kids and teens through love and acceptance

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Episode Transcript

 

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Emily Christensen’s background, what she does, and how she got started

Hi, and welcome to today's podcast episode, Tough Conversations, a How-To Guide with Emily Christensen.

Emily Christensen is a perfectly, imperfect wife and mother of three who believes in the power of family dinners and do-overs. Faith and family are her two greatest priorities. Emily was raised in Christian home that was deeply impacted by pornography, and is intimately aware of how pornography can affect individuals and families. 

Although professionally, her background is in commercial real estate – personally, her background is in supporting families (including her own) that have been impacted by pornography. For over 19 years she has been doing both.

Emily has presented to a variety of church groups, trained church leaders, and presented at BYU Women’s Conference on topics related to pornography. In 2019, she became a Certified Life Coach through the Life Coach School. 

In her coaching practice, she works with individuals and families impacted by pornography; and also, teaches parents how to prevent the compulsive use of pornography in children.

Hello, Emily. Thank you for being here.

 

Emily Christensen: Hi, I'm so happy to be here with you. Thanks for having me.

 

Crystal The Parenting Coach: Hey, I am so excited. Emily is not only amazing and just a wealth of knowledge, but she's also a friend of mine; and I love talking to her about pretty much everything; Everything that she posts on Instagram, I'm like, 'Yep, yep.' 

We both just share such a great message, and it really aligns so well. I had her come and speak in my monthly program for moms, By Design, and it was so good. And so, I wanted to have another conversation but put it on the podcast for everyone because our last conversations have been so, so good. 

So, before we dig into the conversation, I would love from you to tell my listeners a little bit about you and what you do.

 

Emily Christensen: Well, first of all, thank you for those kind words. And yes, my name's Emily Christensen. I'm a certified life coach. Coaching isn't what I've always done. I actually-- My professional background is in real estate, and I've worked in that for 19 years – but for 19 years, I've also lived in a--  

I grew up in a very religious conservative family. I'm active in my faith. And 19 years ago, I also found out that a member of my family was struggling intensively with pornography. 

And so, for 19 years, I have been in the midst of the struggle trying to navigate all the dynamics that come when you have a loved one that struggles, especially to a very intensive level – all the while, pursuing my professional career. 

And I got married and had three children, and so became a mom. And so, I've been dealing with that for a long time. 

And so, when I was in the midst of that situation and really struggling – really overcome with fear, really afraid for how this was going to affect my children and their lives – I just started researching and learning as much as I could. And then, that led to opportunities to speak and to teach and to support other families. 

So, a few years ago, I decided to make a personal pursuit, also a professional pursuit, and put myself out there to, I got certified as a life coach, but then to also just help other families in this situation, but also help families prevent this from happening to their kids. 

And so, we can take proactive steps to prevent kids from getting involved in the compulsive use of pornography.

 

How do we prepare to have tough conversations?

Crystal The Parenting Coach: Okay. I love that. You kind of answered my second question also, which is, 'What kind of led you to get here? What was your journey to here?' 

And I love that all of our journeys are, kind of, so unique, and it's not always a straightforward as you think it's going to be like, 'Oh, this is what I'm going to do for my life,' but it, kind of, just takes some turns – but in the end, you always end up exactly where you need to be. 

And also, through such difficult life experiences that that is how you're able to help so many people, through everything that you've learned in that process. So, I love that also. 

So, today, we're kind of going to be talking about Tough Conversations. So, we are going to dig into sexuality because that's Emily's area of expertise. But first of all, we kind of want to talk about how to have tough conversations with our kids. 

A lot of you that listen probably have teens and tweens and maybe even older adult children. And not even necessarily with kids; we can have tough conversations with anybody, but how do we set ourselves up to have those conversations, to have the relationship that would kind of foster that and what do we actually do and say in any difficult conversation?

 

Emily Christensen: Yeah. Well, I think there's a lot we can do to prepare for it, but also, I love how you said, how do we create an environment, right? How do we set the stage? So, I think even before we're having the conversation, we're trying to open the door for tough topics to be discussed, right? 

We can sit around and wait for our kids to ask us stuff, or we can be the ones that introduce the topics. I always like to say, you know, there's a few things that get in the way of having those tough conversations. 

First of all, is our fear as a parent, right? We're afraid of how our kids will respond. We're afraid that we're not going to say it right. We're going to-- We're afraid that we might say something and then push them. 

Especially, with pornography, parents are afraid. They say, if I talk about, "It will then encourage my kids to look at it," right? And so, we just have to clean up all that fear, and it's okay if we're even a little afraid going into the conversation. 

 

Acknowledging the awkwardness is the first step to having tough conversations

Emily Christensen: And then, we have to just acknowledge all the emotions, give ourself space and our kids space for those situations. So, one tip I give parents a lot is you need to acknowledge – if you are feeling awkward, acknowledge it. 

Awkward isn't weird if it's acknowledged, awkward is weird when we pretend like it's not happening. Right?

 

What would acknowledging look like?

Crystal The Parenting Coach: Oh, I love that. Okay, wait, you have to pause. That's so good because I was thinking as you were talking, awkwardness is probably one of the biggest things that comes up for people. 

They're like, 'Well, I don't want to talk about that - my parents didn't talk about that, their parents didn't talk about that; that's going to be awkward.' So, I just want to really point out what she just said is that awkwardness is only weird if you pretend like you're acting totally normal, yet feel awkward, but if you just acknowledge it, then it's not. So, tell us what would acknowledging look like?

 

Emily Christensen: So, if you're feeling awkward, if you're feeling unsure, you need to communicate that. Okay? And I think being a good parent means being a good communicator. 

And so, the more we can improve our communication skills, the better we are at parenting and teaching our kids. So, it's really important to identify what you're feeling. 

And this model's just healthy emotional regulation, right? When you're just, in emotional management, when you're just saying, kids--  

So, let's create a scenario. The scenario being your kids are older, you really haven't had any conversations – or if you have, they've been very limited, you want to change that, which I strongly recommend, you know, communicating about what pornography is, how to avoid it, and healthy sexuality. 

So, you want to change that. So, you want to go into the conversation and say, "This is hard for me, I'm feeling a little awkward, (1) because I never really learned to do this, I didn't have this-- I didn't have this experience when I was younger." 

"But (2), this is a new experience, and I'm afraid I might say something wrong or I'm afraid that you might not know how to respond. And I just want you to let to-- I just want to let you know that that's what I'm feeling right now." 

"And you might not know how to respond to this either, and that's okay. We're both going to feel a little nervous and awkward, and that's okay. But I know this is important to talk about, and that's why we're going to do it." 

So, you see how you can just give yourself space to be human. I'm in trouble talking. Give your child the space to be human, and really acknowledge all the emotions evolved in the situation. And it just helps to calm the environment and then create a better environment to have the conversation.

 

Crystal The Parenting Coach: Yes. That's so good. I love how you said, I just wrote it down because it was so good, "Being a good parent means being a good communicator." 

And I think that so many times we sit down and try to just put on this facade of like, 'I'm totally cool and comfortable with everything that's going on right now.' Especially, when it comes to talking to our teens or tweens instead of just being like, 'I'm actually a little bit awkward about this – like, I don't really know how to go about it, but I'm going to try anyways because I know that it's important.' 

I think what that also teaches our children is like, it's okay for them to be awkward about it when they come to us, right? It's such a good teaching moment. I think that there's times that I can think back where I really tried to play it cool and look really cool, when I was having the conversations I was having with them, instead of doing this. 

And I think it's so good to lean into that humanness about it because it teaches them more than the actual words that you're just saying.

 

Emily Christensen: Yeah. And I think it also does something else; it helps make you more relatable. 

And some parents, they want to just be the authoritarian, right? But if you want to be an influence and they think, 'If I open myself up, if I'm vulnerable, if I expose what I'm feeling right now, my child won't respect or trust me' – but I believe the opposite. 

And I believe that when we open up and we expose that we're human, just like they are, they have more respect for us and they trust us more because they can relate to that. 

They can't relate to someone who's just telling them what to do, and never has a bad day, and never-- You know, that's not relatable. Think of the people to you that are relatable that you trust; they're people that you feel like, 'Hey, you're like me – you're going to understand me, and you're going to get me.' 

And there's nothing wrong with feeling awkward about a conversation. We also get over the awkward when we just acknowledge and we talk about it; pretending like it doesn't exist, really isn't going to serve anyone.

 

How do you know when to have those tough conversations?

Crystal The Parenting Coach: Yeah. I love that. How do you know when to have those tough conversations, and how do you actually like set yourself up for it – maybe, beforehand?

 

Emily Christensen: Well, so here's a few tips. One, if we're talking about pornography and healthy sexuality, if your child has access to the internet, you need to be talking about it. So, as far as when, it's--

 

Crystal The Parenting Coach: Always.

 

Emily Christensen: You can start today, right? Always. You need to be having those conversations. So, it's best to start. It can be-- I like to think of the adage, "Start small, and start scared", right? It doesn't have to-- You don't have to go into a big lecture, you're going to lose them after 15 seconds. 

But it can just be a mini conversation of, 'Guys, we're going to change the way-- We're going to start talking about things we haven't talked about before. We have not talked a lot about pornography, and I'm going to do better about that as a parent. So, we're going to start today. This might feel a little weird and icky, but I'm just going to share one thing, and then we're going to try this again.' 

So again, it's just warming up the conversation. If you're really nervous, bring notes. It's totally okay to have a set of notes to refer--

 

Crystal The Parenting Coach: I love that.

 

Emily Christensen: Right? You get nervous, we all get nervous. And maybe there's one crucial point you want to follow and just say it, 'You know, I'm so nervous right now, I'm going to just pull out these notes I made. Isn't that funny that I'm your parent and I have to make notes?'

 

Crystal The Parenting Coach: I have to make notes. Yeah.

 

Emily Christensen: 'But sometimes, I get nervous too. And so, I just want to make sure I don't forget something because this is such an important conversation.' Right? 

And so, just again, putting yourself out there, making it raw and real and authentic, and then being consistent about it – trying to bring it up as much as you can. 

And it's better to stumble through a conversation than have no conversation at all, right? It's okay to stumble through it and it's okay to, and then follow up and just say, "Okay, how was that for you? Did it feel a little weird? Like, how are you doing?" 

Do a little check-in, check in with yourself, check in with them and just say, "We're going to figure this out, aren't we? We're both kind of new at this. We're going to figure it out, but together we're going-- We're going to-- We're going to figure it out together, and we're going to make changes that I know are for the best for our family."

 

Where should tough conversations start?

Crystal The Parenting Coach: That's so good. When you were talking, I was thinking – okay, so, I know we've talked about this before too – that teaching healthy sexuality regularly is really what opens up that conversation and that communication all the time. 

And actually, in the end, prevents any sort of sexual addiction or pornography addiction from happening because it's just so much more comfortable; we talk about it all the time. 

And so, for somebody that's listening in and maybe doesn't feel like they have a lot of conversations around sexuality in their home – maybe they didn't grow up that way – where do they start? So, they take some notes, they have a conversation with their kids – what do they talk about? Like, where should they start when they're starting out?

 

Emily Christensen: Well, first, let me answer why it's important to address that, just so if people are confused; one of the reasons kids seek out pornography is because they're curious. 

They're naturally curious, and they're also naturally sexual. Okay? And both of those are good things; that's normal, natural, and healthy for your child because from the time they're born, their sexual organs are starting to develop. That's a critical part of who they are. 

And as we know, kids want to know why, right? They want to know why their body works a certain way. So, that's just-- They're going to have that natural curiosity. If as parents we're not the trusted source of information, they will seek other outlets to answer their curiosities. 

And right now, any sexual term they type into Google, where it's going to lead them, usually, not to a really informative, safe conversation on YouTube about healthy sexuality, right?

 

Crystal The Parenting Coach: Yeah.

 

Emily Christensen: It's going to lead them somewhere else. So, that's why we want to talk about it. So, then now to go to your question, 'Where do you start if you haven't had the conversation?' The simplest place to start at any age is talking about your body, because that's safe, right? 

 

Crystal The Parenting Coach: Yeah. 

 

Emily Christensen: The sanctity and beauty and capability of a human body. And then, what you want to do is talk about all the body parts, and how the body works, and how the body is amazing. 

You want to frame the conversation from a place of beauty and awe and amazement, and 'Isn't it amazing what our bodies can do, including create life?' And, 'Let's talk about what that looks like,' right? And so, just talking about our body parts – naming and identifying body parts – and whether you have--

 

Crystal The Parenting Coach: With real names.

 

Emily Christensen: Real names.

 

Crystal The Parenting Coach: Using all the proper terminology.

 

Emily Christensen: And you need to be able to say "Penis" and "Vagina" and "Breasts" just as in a calm and comfortable way, as you say, "Head, and knees, and toes, and fingers," because those are body parts that are important and beautiful. 

And when we make up silly names or we ignore them, or we pretend, and it's okay to make up silly names. I'm not saying, "Don't ever do that," but I'm just saying sometimes that can be shaming. 

Sometimes that can be, we don't talk about it because we just have to make up a funny name. Instead, we wanted to spell all of that and say, "No, it's good and normal and natural and healthy," because then that satisfies the curiosity, and you're teaching and promoting the opposite of pornography. 

Pornography is not normal, natural, or healthy. Okay? 

 

Crystal The Parenting Coach: Yeah. 

 

Emily Christensen: But our natural bodies, the way they were created is natural, normal, and healthy; and that's what healthy sexuality is. So, you see how you're counteracting the messages of pornography by really teaching and emphasizing and overcommunicating about healthy sexuality.

 

How to prevent pornography use in kids and teens through love and acceptance

Crystal The Parenting Coach: I like that term, 'Overcommunicating about healthy sexuality'. 

And I love where you told us exactly where to start because that is such a good starting point to be teaching basic terminology using anatomy in our regular just day-to-day language, and talking about all of the different amazing functions that our body does including our sexuality. 

And just like you said, I interviewed Jennifer Finlayson-Fife, Dr. Jennifer Finlayson-Fife a while ago, and she was talking about this, like about teaching healthy sexuality. 

And one of the things that she mentioned also was like, "We don't want to shame it – we want it to be normal and natural, and we are naturally sexual beings." 

And I think that sometimes we try to like push that part away and we're like, 'Well, that's bad or wrong for whatever reason' – for maybe things that happen in childhood, maybe beliefs that we've had about it or the way that our parents talked about it. 

We kind of just thought it was this thing that, this taboo topic that we don't talk about. So, bringing it out of the darkness into light and saying like, 'No, this is healthy – we're actually all sexual beings,' and having those conversations in that way, just really flips the conversation.

 

Emily Christensen: Yeah. Well, we can change our mindset about it. One of the reasons too, this is hard for parents, is they struggle in their own sexual relationships or what I see a lot is they've been impacted by pornography in a negative way. Okay? 

So, they themselves or a loved one have struggled with it, and they've linked anything sexual – whether it's good or bad – with pornography. And so, they can't even talk about the healthy aspect because they're so stuck in the fear or they're having the conversations from a place of, 'I better talk to you about this or you're going to get involved in it and I don't want you to get involved'. 

And it comes out in a very fear-based tone instead of a comfortable and confident love-based tone.

 

Crystal The Parenting Coach: Yes. And I think that's another really crucial aspect. Emily and I and our friend, Zach Spafford, all got together; and we did a webinar, and it was called Transforming the Pornography Conversation from Fear to Love. 

And the reason that we named it that is because all three of us agree so much that when it's fear-based, then it really dwells in shame; and shame is what continually fuels addictions of all kinds. 

And so, if we're just keeping it in the dark and keeping it fear-based, it's always going to be shame-based. And so, whatever we can do to switch that conversation to come from a space of love, just like you said, like love for us and love for them. 

And even going back to that awkwardness, like, it's okay, like love for me, like, 'It's okay that this is awkward. Of course, I have a hard time with it. Look at my background and what I've gone through, or my family members have gone through – maybe that's why it's hard for me.' 

And having grace and compassion for yourself in that moment, but still allowing yourself to have those conversations.

 

Emily Christensen: Yeah. And being proactive. What I see with fear all the time is if you are afraid of pornography, if you are afraid of even talking about healthy sexual things, fear leads to inaction and overreaction. Okay?

There's one approach of, ‘I'm not going to talk about it at all', which I call the 'head in the sand' approach, or there's the, like, I see my child exploring, putting their hand on their pants, and I just start screaming saying, "Get your hand out of there, we don't touch that." 

And I don't teach and I don't explain which to a child can be alarming, and frightening, and shaming. Okay? So, both of those reactions come from fear. 

And so, if we can get over that fear, and again, it's okay to have some fear, but when we have this aggressive form of fear ruling, dominating our minds relating to this topic, it will affect the conversation in our home. 

It also affects the environment in our home. All of a sudden, home doesn't feel as safe to talk about these things, and kids get the message, 'I'm not going to bring this up to mom and dad because I don't want to see them flip out,' because then they feel like they've caused that. 

They're not emotionally aware enough to realize, 'Oh yeah, that's just mom and dad's problem.' No, they see it as, 'I'm not going to be the cause of that' – conversation done, we don't talk about it anymore. 

And then, that puts families in a position where you can't really help your kids; you can't. Then, now we've just sent them out into this world to navigate a world that's hypersexualized, full of pornography, full of messages that are not true about their sexual development and sexual expression. 

And they've just been bombarded with it, and they have no place to go except for friends or maybe just isolating. And so, that's just not a healthy outcome.

 

Crystal The Parenting Coach: Yeah. And I think it's kind of like we're putting this wedge in there, right? We're telling them like, 'Okay, yeah, we love you, we love you,' but like, through our either inaction or overreaction, like you said, we're kind of telling them it's not okay. 

And even though we're not saying those words, like what you said, they're so connected to their emotions and their thoughts and their feelings and their actions. Like, it's all just bundled up into them. 

So, they're just thinking like, 'Okay, something's wrong with me,' or 'This isn't allowed, this isn't okay at home, this isn't safe at home to talk about.' And it's just starts this tiny little wedge that just grows and grows and grows and grows. 

And they're going to keep doing their own thing and thinking their own things and, you know, living their life, but they're not going to have us be a part of it. 

And I would guess for almost all, most of my listeners, what we all want in the end is a healthy relationship with our children. We want them to grow up to be emotionally intelligent adults. We want to have healthy relationships with them, and be that space where they come back to no matter what; and that starts when they're younger. 

That starts as teens and tweens – and even as children – in the way that we respond to them in any tough conversation. 

And I love what you're talking about and having these conversations, because it doesn't necessarily have to be about pornography or sexuality; it can be about any tough conversation, anything that they're having a hard time. 

It could be bullies at school or something hard that's happening with their, you know, schooling. It could be a' friend problem' that they're having. There's so many different things that they will say like, "Oh, if it's okay for us to talk about this, then it's okay for us to talk about this too."

 

Emily Christensen: Yeah. Yeah. We want to open the door to all topics – all things – and make all of those things safe so they have; a place to figure out the world, a safe place to figure out the world, a safe place to make mistakes, a safe place to ask any question. 

And we should never assume because they're okay, you know, we say, "Oh, well, they open up about these things, there might be a whole other side of them that they don't feel safe opening up about." 

And so, we just have to keep opening that up, keep asking direct questions, keep listening, keep not judging. You know, when we say, "Hold space," that just means listening without judgment and allowing them to feel any way they want about these different things. 

That doesn't mean that you don't teach intentionally. That doesn't mean that you don't bring, express your point of view or actively overcommunicate your point of view, but you're not trying to force anything on them. When you try and force, kids will automatically resist only every single time, right?

 

Crystal The Parenting Coach: Yeah. Only every single time.

 

Emily Christensen: We're not trying to force it. We're not trying to, 'You have to believe this way,' we're just having conversations about it. And if we can tone down the fear, then we can be confident; we can be the leaders, and we can stand up and have these conversations in an empowering and strong and comfortable way.

 

Crystal The Parenting Coach: Yeah. Yeah. And I think it does become more comfortable the more that we allow ourselves to lean into awkwardness, right? The more times that we're going to have those awkward conversations, over time, it is going to get more comfortable. 

And I think it is so crucial and so important to set yourself up for these kinds of communication and conversations, because those tough conversations will come. We welcome them, we want them to come. That means that they are comfortable with you and with coming to you with their issues. 

 

Emily Christensen: Yeah. 

 

Emily Christensen’s final advice

Crystal The Parenting Coach: So, I would love for you to just leave us with one last bit of advice or tip that you have for anyone who, you know, maybe they're struggling with having to have conversations, maybe they're struggling with sexuality or pornography or any of these things. What's kind of one thing that you'd leave for us today?

 

Emily Christensen: You know what? It's that it's never too late to start. And I hope if you've got listeners that have kids that are older and you think, 'Boy, I didn't do this the way I wanted to,' or they're struggling right now. 

Or maybe you have a family member who's struggled with pornography, or maybe you've just approached it one way and now you're realizing maybe that wasn't the best way, 'I want to approach it differently,' it is never too late to start, because once we start to think that it is, we feel defeated, we get shut down and we don't have the conversation. 

And so, I firmly believe that it's just never too late to start. You can, and start-- Like I said, 'Start small, and start scared'. And the more, as parents, we can have courage and we can be confident and we can go into these conversations and just not be afraid of them, the more that will just change things in our home; it will change the future of our children. 

And if I could go back and rewind and teach these things to generations before me, my life would've not been impacted the way it was; and I believe that 100%. And it's why I'm doing what I'm doing because I know that if parents had these tools and this understanding, and if my family members had before me, my life would've been totally different. It looked different today. 

So, it's never too late to start. If you learn something new and you feel better about that approach, then do it; even if you're scared, move forward and just do it.

 

Crystal The Parenting Coach: I love that. I love that mantra of 'it's never too late to start' too, because when I talk to people about changing their relationships with their kids, this is something that comes up often. 

They're like, 'My kid's 15, my kid's 16, my kid's an adult, so I can't do anything – I can't change our relationship, I can't have a better relationship with them,' but in all things, it's never too late to start. 

We can change that relationship now with anybody in your life, and you can-- Everything that we've talked about today, you can start to make those changes and have those conversations even if you haven't done them before; it is totally okay. 

So, thank you for joining us and having that conversation. I know that it was helpful for me personally, and I'm sure that it was helpful for so many people that are listening. 

 

How to connect with Emily Christensen

Crystal The Parenting Coach: I would love for you just to tell us a little bit about how people can connect with you or work with you.

 

Emily Christensen: Perfect. Well, thank you Crystal for having me. The best way is just to go to my website or to follow me on social media. You can reach out either place. If you could link, just link that in your show, but emilychristensencoaching.com or @emilychristensencoaching on Instagram and on Facebook. 

And I'm active in my messages, even if people just have a question – or I want this to be a safe place for anyone who's been impacted or anyone who's afraid they want to prevent issues in their kids, please reach out; and I'm just always happy to respond and offer any help or support or resources that I can.

 

Crystal The Parenting Coach: Yeah. So, if you're listening to this podcast, for sure, 100% reach out to Emily, even if you just say, "Hey, I enjoyed your podcast, I listened to it," or "This is one little bit that I loved from it", and let her know; and I will have everything linked below in the show notes. Thank you again so much, Emily.

 

Emily Christensen: Thank you. Appreciate it.

 

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